The Presidency: 1968 Behind the Election Results, reel 1

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This seems to me to be on the whole a healthy situation to have candidates that
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represent real differences. But not of such a sort that when one of them
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gets defeated in the other you get selected. The country remains deeply split
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in a consensus situation. The country does not remain deeply split.
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Boston University radio presents the presidency 1968
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a series of four programs taken from lectures by the noted political scientist
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Max Lerner. Dr. Lerner is professor of American civilization and world
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politics at Brandeis University and is the author of several books
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including America as a civilization the unfinished country an
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anthology of his best newspaper columns and the age of overkill.
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His syndicated newspaper column is published nationwide and abroad. The
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Presidency 1968 was originally presented at Garland junior college
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Boston and was made possible by a grant from the Sperry and Hutchinson
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foundation. In this third program Dr. Lerner discusses the topic
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behind the election results. Now here is Dr. Max Lerner
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on the presidency 1968.
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I might say that I did have a pretty good idea
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what my task would be. I had a pretty good notion that it would
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be to try to explain how Mr
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Nixon won the presidency and why and how and
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why Mr Humphrey lost.
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A difference the only real difference from my original
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formulation was that the results came out much more closely than I had anticipated.
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Much more closely and that some of the reasons that I might have
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used a priori don't fit the actual
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concrete factual material. And I want to deal with that
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I think first you have to start with Chicago.
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Mr. Humphrey was given a tragically bad start
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with that bloody confrontation on the
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streets of Chicago. It's interesting by the way that
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his campaign really began and ended in Chicago. He
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started it after that episode on the
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Chicago streets and at the end the votes that were being counted the
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longest the greatest anxiety were the votes of
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Chicago and Illinois. Chicago seemed to stand at
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both ends of that campaign of Mr. Humphrey as
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a rather tragic symbol. In my end is my beginning.
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And that was very much true of Mr. Humphrey. He went off to an extremely bad start.
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No one quite knows what the campaign his campaign would have been like.
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If Chicago had had the same kind of results
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that Miami had if there had been the same absence of
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confrontation between the youngsters and the police.
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At Chicago that there wasn't Miami. My own feeling
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is that he would have got it started rolling earlier and that.
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He would have come in either very much closer or perhaps even as a
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victor. Because the last week the last week of
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that campaign was a week in which Mr Humphrey was making enormous gains.
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I think that it was important also that. Mr Humphrey was not able to
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get any of the Southern states all needed a deep
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South nor the border states unless you count Maryland a border
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state. Mr. Nixon did pull the border states it's not
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at all clear I think it will be discussed for a long time as to whether it was
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Mr. Agnew being on the ticket with him that enabled the ticket to
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pull these southern border states or whether Mr. Nixon would have done it on his own whether the
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having to take Mr. Agnew on as the price of getting those border
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states was a necessary price to pay.
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I think that Mr. Wallace's vote was over calculated at the beginning
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of the campaign. He turned out to have been not nearly as strong
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as he had expected and that as others had expected. And
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to the extent that those votes did not go to Mr. Wallace the chances are that the majority
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of those votes went to Mr. Nixon. Even given
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these these considerations
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Mr. Humphries I say came very very close. If the
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bombing pause had come what two or three days earlier Mr. Nixon's own
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camp now believes believed at the time that if it had come to his read days
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earlier the results would have been very very different.
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And in that sense there was a kind of a race between the
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negotiators for a bombing pause hold triangular
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negotiators Washington Hanoi Saigon a race
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between those negotiators and the election in that race.
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Saigon obviously was not over anxious. To get the bombing post to
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come early. Hanoi didn't do it very fast either but
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Hanoi I think felt rather differently about the two candidates and the way the
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Saigon felt. I think it's clear that the officials at Saigon did not want
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to come for a victory that they very much wanted a Nixon victory
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and were not anxious to give their even their
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qualified approval to the package that was offered
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for a bombing pause or not at all anxious if they'd been more
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anxious it's quite possible that the pause could have come earlier. One thing
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we're very clear about is that the timing of that pause was not Lyndon Johnson's timing.
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Not Lyndon Johnson's timing he could not have pulled it out of a hat.
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I'm sure he tried to hurry it as rapidly as he could and I'm also certain
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that when he got into an approximation of an agreement from Saigon he went ahead
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even though that agreement may not have been 100 percent it didn't have all the i's dotted
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and the T's crossed. He did go ahead but he could not have pulled it out of the hat.
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It was not his to choose when the timing of the bombing pause was to come.
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It was up to Hanoi primarily and to some extent it was up to Saigon
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Hanoi wanted I think to come. Before the election not too
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long for some reason not too long before the election I think they were holding out for the best
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possible terms. But there's very very little question that it was that
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bombing pause on which ultimately. The sin margin of the election
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turned one way or another and there was a moment
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during which Mr. Nixon evidently has confessed
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that he had some real anxiety as to how it was going to come out.
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I think of Mr. Humphrey had had been more positive in the
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attraction that he exerted on voters. The result would have been
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different. For that matter if Mr. Nixon had been more positive in his
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attraction he would have won by a very much larger margin than he did.
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The fact is that neither candidate was a loved candidate. I think I've said
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of all three candidates that they were relatively unloved men
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though as in none none of the three of them were charismatic in the sense of
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of evoking any kind of very deep affection not to speak of love.
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I think. The result might have been.
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Much a much larger margin also for Mr. Nixon if he'd had a
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different vice president running with him. I mean one of the reasons
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why Mr. Humphrey toward the end picked up the steam that he picked up.
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Was the recall that set in against Mr. Agnew. As a vice
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presidential running mate now here too. This is nothing that can be proved.
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And there are two schools on this. One is the school that it says that Mr.
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Agnew actually won the election for Mr. Nixon.
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Because A. 70 odd electoral votes that he that the
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ticket drew in the southern border states where the difference
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between a victory and having it go into the House of Representatives.
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But there's another school of thought and that is that it was not
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necessarily the southern border states that counted that Mr. Nixon might very easily
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have gotten those southern border states and lost some of the very big states
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particularly California and Illinois and Missouri the ones that were so doubtful at the
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end. And it was in these states that Mr. Agnew was not an
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advantage but a drag. My own feeling while I
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recognize the some of the strengths in the first position my own feeling goes
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on the whole toward the second position.
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In every presidential election there are things you're sorry for
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things you're rather glad about. There are two things that I am happiest
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about in this election perhaps three.
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One is the. The real psychological and moral
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defeat that Mr. Wallace suffered. It
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was a psychological and moral defeat despite 13 and a half percent
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of the popular vote. There had been a point
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when he had something like 20 percent and it looked as if he were rolling on even
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higher you'll recall that I talked about that. It
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started to roll back with his choice of General
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M-A as a vice presidential running mate which threw some consternation
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into the hearts of many because of general amazing views about the Vietnam
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War and about nuclear weapons.
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And yet that wasn't the whole story. Why Mr
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Wallace failed.
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For one thing I think he had maybe made it all too clear what his basic strategy
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was and the basic strategy of course was to throw
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the election into the House of Representatives by denying to either of
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the major candidates a majority of the Electoral College vote.
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And having thrown it into the House of Representatives then to be the arbiter
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of the presidential destinies of the nation. And you know some made it
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fairly clear he did not conceal this that in being the operator
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of these destinies his his calculated policy would
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be to try to strike some kind of a deal with the Nixon camp even
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before the vote was opened on January even before
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that time.
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I think a number of people who might otherwise have voted for him recoiled from this basic
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strategy from the openness of it from the cynicism of it
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and from the possible chaos that it might bring with
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it Mr. Wallace. Constantly as a
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candidate talked against chaos as if chaos were his
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chosen opponent. And yet the same candidate who talked
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against chaos who said in effect chaos belongs to the other side I'm against it.
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The same candidate was was in effect inviting a
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degree of chaos in this home and the inevitable you
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negative tension and friction and
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division and cleavage that would result both from
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having it thrown into the elections thrown into the Electoral College and that the discussion
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that would follow the kind of deal that I've just talked about.
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So that's one thing I'm happy about.
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Along with that. There's another aspect of Mr. Wallace's
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failure to get a real vote. And that is that evidently a number of
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people who thought of themselves as voting in a backlash way.
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When the final decision came felt that that was not as crucial as other matters.
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Considering the kind of fears we had about our country and about the psychology of
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a large number of the voters particularly of those whom we call the what the age an aged
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white collar workers blue collar workers lower middle class.
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Considering the feeling we had about them I think their failure to go along with
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him is a pretty good sign of health.
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No one can blame people after they have had some kind of contact with street
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violence. With the instability that has come from
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all riots and demonstrations no one can blame them for feeling deeply about this and no
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one can blame them I suppose for having it enter their heads that the way to resolve this problem is
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by crackdown.
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But the really interesting thing is that having thought of that as a many many of
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them must have thought of them who thought of it that didn't find the vote for Wallace. Having
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thought of that they did not allow this to be decisive. Which brings me to
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the second aspect of the vote that I regard as that I'm pretty
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happy about and that is that it was a consensus vote.
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A consensus vote in the sense that if you put the voters for
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